Catching Foxes

Two guys talking about the collision of faith and culture. Discussion over Instruction. *Occasionally explicit.

About the show

Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!

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  • Joker Review and Catholic Social Justice

    October 11th, 2019  |  48 mins 52 secs
    catholic, joker, mental illness, movie

    Spoilers. The horn sounds, so you have been warned. We skip any sort of plot summary and assume you've seen the movie. Three themes of economic injustice, mental health, and isolation interweave into one amazing character study called JOKER.

  • Confidence: Painful Art of Self-Acceptance

    October 4th, 2019  |  1 hr 29 mins
    acceptance, confidence, fear, jerks, nice guys

    [We cuss a lot.] Confidence: Gomer thinks it's linked to violence and Luke to self-acceptance. Then we show how Nice Guys and Jerks are the same, but just one of them is better at hiding it. Finally, we talk Hans Urs von Balthasar. Thanks, Try.CatholicSocial.Media for sponsoring this show!

  • We Are Hacks

    September 27th, 2019  |  1 hr 1 min
    books, catholic, church, the hack

    I read Amy Wellborn's article on The Hack and applying it to social media shenanigans of today. I know dozens of professional ministers that are hanging a question mark on everything now. Walk with me through the pain!

  • Dave Van Vickle Returns...with STORIES!!!

    September 13th, 2019  |  1 hr 18 mins

    Our buddy Jon refused to become a Patreon supporter until we got Van Vickle back on the show to talk ghosts, hauntings, and exorcism stories. BUT FIRST! Luke talks about his despair over the Church today, the failure of the bishops to do anything meaningful, and how we are basically still confused by Pope Francis. That's the first 25 minutes. Then ghost stories, kids!

  • All the Flash, None of the Dirt

    September 6th, 2019  |  57 mins 24 secs
    hope, lust, porn, sex

    Gomer argues Marital Debt. Luke burns down another Bridge. Then we dive into an amazing S.A. Whitebook quote on Lust.

  • Gomer gets Busted for Plagiarism

    August 30th, 2019  |  58 mins 44 secs
    catholic, diy, hgtv, moving

    Tim Staples, Curtis Martin, Fr. Donald Calloway, Immaculee Ilibagiza... and gomer...? Also, Luke gives us an audio tour of his house. (No footprints) and then Gomer tells Luke a story about his past that Luke has never heard before.

  • Luke Sharpens Gomer's Iron

    August 23rd, 2019  |  1 hr 21 mins
    catholic, optimization, scandal, suffering church

    Recorded August 12: We talk Gomer's need for an assistant, which Gomer denies until a text message comes in and proves him a liar. We talk the Cincinnati scandals, of which Luke knows all the accused.


    August 16th, 2019  |  1 hr 16 mins
    capitalism, catholic, politics, wages

    This is what happens when one guy had 3 hours of sleep and the other guy is 3 beers in before the conversation starts. "Living Wage" <-- is this too vague to actually help guide business that wants to be righteous unto Yahweh? Gomer says TOO VAGUE. Luke says IS GOD EVEN REAL! It's a great episode of us yelling.

  • The Dayton Shooting with Kevin Heider

    August 10th, 2019  |  1 hr 32 mins
    guns, politics, shooting, violence

    Luke lives in Dayton and was at that spot where the shootings occurred just the evening before enjoying a drumline show. He invites Kevin Heider, a Dayton native, to join us. Yes, we talk about Trump, Gun Control, and other issues. And yes, Luke got permission from Five Iron Frenzy to use their song.

  • Luke's been a bad, bad girl.

    August 2nd, 2019  |  1 hr 23 mins
    90's, music, work

    We started talking about Fiona Apple's "Criminal", then Luke posited that 90's pop was "deeper" because Gen-Xers were angsty and hypersexual. We disagreed, until it came to Ginger Spice. Then, we agreed too much! Also, Gomer is a boss and Luke wonders if I can make my employees virtuous. Gomer doubts it. END PART ONE.

  • Gomer Reads an Email from 2010 Luke

    July 26th, 2019  |  49 mins 44 secs

    Gomer is low-talking because he's the only one awake at his in-laws' house (I mean, it IS 9:30pm, after all). We discuss random stuff, rarely get to a point, and laugh along the way. Also, the ENDING IS WORTH IT!

  • Interview: Matt Fradd is the Earth in Springtime

    July 20th, 2019  |  1 hr 5 mins

    Fradd was in Australia for six weeks and hit rock bottom, then went on Healing the Whole Person retreat with Sr. Miriam James (Gomer's hero) and God radically healed him. Then GOOGLE screwed him over. sad.

  • Haley Stewart has had ENOUGH!

    July 12th, 2019  |  1 hr 4 mins
    catholic, contentment, family, grace, happiness

    I love the Stewart story! Conversion to Catholicism, dead-end unhappy life, a return to the land and farming, and pooping in a bucket, to discovering the grace of enough. Rest assured, her personal commitment to Christ will make you happy you suffered through Luke and me till the bitter end. She's amazing.

  • Everybody's screwing, nobody's talking

    July 5th, 2019  |  1 hr 19 mins
    catholic, healing, hope, sex, young adults

    The Catholic Young Adult scene is filled with hookups. We ignore this, we aren't doing ministry of any sort. Then we dive into Healing and then Hope. At the end, it's a SHOCKING story of hope and prayer.

  • Whoopsies! (10-Minute Topics Return!)

    June 29th, 2019  |  1 hr 44 mins
    catholic, christian, communication, marriage, millennials, scruples

    We almost kept them all to Ten Minutes. The Question of Scrupulosity, Communication after 10 years of Marriage, Dating Fast, Chernobyl show, and any new (non-FIRE) Podcasts, Catholics in the Public Square vs The Benedict Option, When is Justice Appeased in Identity Politics, Fr. Morris leaves the priesthood, and Punching McCarrick in the Face...?

  • The Praxis of Long Commutes, and other tales

    June 21st, 2019  |  1 hr 7 mins
    catholic, prayer, silence, spouse

    First, Fergalicious. Then, Twittermaggedon. Finally, Luke asks Gomer how we can, outside of faith sharing groups (buy my book!), actually grow in our faith. Gomer lies in order to answer this question. In the end, you'll be enriched, engaged, and engorged on Glory. Also, OJ SIMPSON AND BILL COSBY ARE ON TWITTER!!! HAPPY FATHERS DAY!