Catching Foxes

Two guys talking about the collision of faith and culture. Discussion over Instruction. *Occasionally explicit.

About the show

Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!

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  • Heavy is the Head who Wears the Crown

    January 22nd, 2021  |  1 hr 20 mins
    catholic, dignity, symbolic representation, symbols

    Ssssymbolism conversation continues! And it's Luke's fault, not Gomer's! Luke brings up the meaning behind a King's crown and how society knew where it stood in relation to it.

  • Sssymbolism and why the Sacraments don't make no sense

    January 15th, 2021  |  1 hr 20 mins

    Luke and I do some quick check-ins regarding the news in DC, why Gomer doesn't watch the news, and how that can be healthy. Then we take a brief detour and talk Project 86, WandaVision, and such, then dive into Symbolic Representation, Mythology, and why the Sacraments just seem like bizarre add-ons to an otherwise rational faith.

  • JD Flynn and Catholic Independent Journalism

    January 8th, 2021  |  1 hr 33 mins
    catholic, independent, journalism, news

    We start with Luke's sober comments on what's happening this week as a preface to the show for 10 minutes. Then, we interview our friend JD Flynn who recently resigned from EWTN's Catholic News Agency (CNA) to start The Pillar, an independent Catholic media project. We interview him and ask questions from our Patreon supporters. If you'd like to get involved in 2021 in Catching Foxes, become a supporter today! Or, you know, you could support The Pillar (

  • Yearly Themes 2021 Edition

    January 1st, 2021  |  1 hr 19 mins
    catholic, humility, new years, process, themes

    What does A Very Special Carey Christmas look like? What does The Gormley Family Christmas Celebration entail? You'll find out in the opening 10 minutes. Then we dive into our very different New Years' Eve activities for another 20 minutes. We are very wordy, but it all flows into our annual YEARLY THEMES SHOOOOOOOOW! First, we review 2020 themes and rate one another and ourselves. Then we discuss our 2021 themes and what they mean. Finally, we give our Top Fives of 2020.

  • Untitled Episode

    December 25th, 2020  |  1 hr 23 mins
    catholic, parents, philosophy, usmnt

    Chapters for each topic!

    • “Five” Minutes total
    • Cohost must ask one question and have answer provided within five minute span
    • Four topics each


    1. USMNT Hope
    2. Jurassic Park might be a better movie under a different director
    3. Christian rock renissance
    4. Freddy Adu and American Exceptionalism


    1. YouTube Hobbies: detailing cars, woodworking, finances, computers, etc.
    2. Missed Opportunities from parents who are not and cannot be perfect
    3. Mandalorian: How Disney is Destroying our Childhood Memories
    4. Alasdair MacIntyre
  • ADHD and Catholicism as a Spectator Sport

    December 18th, 2020  |  1 hr 41 mins
    adhd, catholic, taylor swift

    This has many twists and turns, but it starts with Gomer paying his 2018 taxes, then goes into music, Taylor Swift, and then Gomer tries to tell a funny story that leads to Luke revealing something very personal, which carries the show.

  • Gross and Old, with Brian Kissinger

    December 11th, 2020  |  1 hr 35 mins
    catholic, change, life, marriage, single

    CHAPTERS! We gathered patrons' questions to three guys about to enter their 40's about the meaning of getting older, the realization of family life vs. single freedom, what do you miss and how do you deal with your regrets?

  • A Canticle for Leibowitz, with apologies to Matt Fradd

    December 4th, 2020  |  1 hr 24 mins

    Luke and I discuss the astounding book, A Canticle for Leibowitz, by Walter Miller Jr. Written in the 1950's at the height of the Cold War, Miller saw the specter of nuclear annihilation before him and penned this, one of the most insightful post-apocalyptic books ever written. We explore the themes as well as the original Dark Ages, and the drama of faith and reason. Then Luke ends with a VERY SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!

  • Latvia is better than McCarrick

    November 20th, 2020  |  1 hr 45 mins
    catholic, latvia, mccarrick

    We start the show celebrating the Latvian people because THEY LOVE CATCHING FOXES AND CATCHING FOXES LOVES LATVIA. Then, McCarrick.... We don't analyze the report, but instead, we answer your questions about it. This isn't a series of hot takes, but a call to holiness.

  • The Not So Great Gatsby

    November 13th, 2020  |  1 hr 5 mins
    catholic, gatsby, mcu, movies

    I loved the story, but we look deeper into the emptiness. Not all that glitters is gold, my friends. Then we reminisce about the time Luke almost moved in with my family. We praise Matt Fradd. Then we talk people-watching, party-going, Gomer's comic book obsession as a coping mechanism for his profound loneliness in middle school, and the quote about the "magical" parts of the Bible from Matthew McConaughey

  • Morality as Ideology

    November 6th, 2020  |  1 hr 25 mins
    catholic, elections, morality, voting

    This episode is not about the election, but it is absolutely about the election. Luke asks Gomer about what happens when our Christian Morality is wrenched free of Christ and hardens into an ideology used for smashing our enemies. Gomer, agreeing with the premise, fears this pathway leads to the Antinomian dark side. This is the war between poles: legalism and antinomianism, rigorism and laxism. There be dragons!

  • Gomer Goes to the Woodshed

    October 30th, 2020  |  1 hr 9 mins

    Hey friends, This episode is in three major parts:

    1. Follow-up to the last episode to clarify and to apologize
    2. Ted Lasso, new American Anti-Anti-Hero
    3. Gomer's actions on the sidelines of his kids' soccer games will shock you.
  • Gomer Yells at Priests, with Clerically Speaking

    October 24th, 2020  |  1 hr 41 mins

    Humble and obedient priests, Fr. Harrison and Fr. Anthony, from the podcast join us this week so Gomer can yell at them. Not them, per se, but all God's priests as a collective. They take it like warrior-poets and then distill their own struggles finding God in the midst of the Church in crisis.

  • The Real Jurassic World Rules

    October 16th, 2020  |  1 hr 4 mins

    What happens when Gomer takes a clip from Jurassic World and uses it to interpret MTV's "The Real World" from the 1990's? Not hilarity, according to my wife. Also, WHY AM I NO LONGER CONSIDERED A FAITHFUL CATHOLIC?!

  • Let's Feel Insecure and Talk for an Additional Hour

    October 9th, 2020  |  1 hr 24 mins

    This show moves in 3 acts: Act 1, the BSing. Act 2, leadership as something, something, and Effectiveness. Act 3, we start with an apology and then Luke breaks open his insecurities in a big way.

  • The Emergencies are Everywhere

    October 2nd, 2020  |  1 hr 20 mins

    Luke talks about FIFA and enters into an existential crisis about the death of small towns and cities. This leads to a broader conversation about martyrdom and "emergencies" for the Church and the world.