Catching Foxes

Two guys talking about the collision of faith and culture. Discussion over Instruction. *Occasionally explicit.

About the show

Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!

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  • One Visit Away with Kevin Fitzpatrick

    September 18th, 2022  |  2 hrs 9 mins

    Luke likes raising money for the Church. Kevin is incredibly good at it. This show is the offspring of their brains and experience.

  • Middle-Class Serfdom

    September 11th, 2022  |  1 hr 43 mins

    What happens when we adopt a thousand other jobs that we never used to do? DIY but not for yourself.

  • House of the Dragon vs. Rings of Power, with Nate Hoffman

    September 4th, 2022  |  1 hr 33 mins

    Luke Finds a Better Co-Host and Friend as we all discuss the two new shows. Questions abound! Who wins? Who loses? Why is Gomer so easily replaceable?

  • Luke goes Glad Trad

    August 28th, 2022  |  1 hr 52 mins

    “I have earnestly desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer". Luke contemplates the classic TLM move while Gomer pounces, dances, and pontificates. Also, Shia and the good Bishop. Then we conclude with a review of House of the Dragon.

  • Desert Joy

    August 20th, 2022  |  51 mins 38 secs

    Gomer goes to prison, but first to preschool. There he learns about "Desert Joy".

  • Husband, Dad, Priest, Oklahoman: an interview with Fr. Justin Fletcher

    August 14th, 2022  |  2 hrs 51 mins

    Fr. Justin Fletcher is a priest of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter. He was an Episcopal priest, married with kids, and converted to Roman Catholicism. He is also a student and lover of the Catholic liturgy and explains things so incredibly well. I interviewed him about two months ago in my house at 9pm with my buddy, Brian Jones, and we ended around 2am, which was awesome. This was my first recording using my new soundboard and I screwed up MY microphone. So I apologize.

  • I'd be temperate if it weren't so boring...

    August 6th, 2022  |  1 hr 8 mins

    When goes a good thing become a bad thing? What if temperance looks a lot different (and maybe harder) than just not getting drunk or endlessly binging shows? Worse of all, what if temperance bores me to death and I don't want to do it anymore?

  • Like Old Times

    July 31st, 2022  |  1 hr 13 mins

    Main question: What happens after the gimmick is done?

  • Principles of Liturgy with Dr. Chris Carstens

    July 24th, 2022  |  1 hr 21 mins

    We talk liturgy... OK, OK, I get it. I've been doing this a lot. But, in my defense, Pope Francis is moving and shaking a lot in the liturgy sphere lately. So it's out of my control. I'm a victim of circumstance. BUT I got the literal best guy to talk about this stuff, Dr. Chris Carstens

  • Dr. Abigail Favale on Gender Theory, with surprise guest LUKE CAREY!

    July 3rd, 2022  |  1 hr 28 mins

    I love Dr. Abigail Favale and her work in the Church is much needed. Her new book, The Genesis of Gender: A Christian Theory by Ignatius Press is out and is poppin' fresh. We discuss the main figures of the feminist movement and the core of their philosophies as it shifts into the gender movement: Simone de Beauvoir, Margaret Sanger, and Judith Butler. Then Luke walks in. Literally, he walked straight into her conference room where Dr. Favale was recording and joined the show. His audio sucks because he's on his phone. I spent 40 minutes just trying to make it sound better. This is what you get. Anywho, good conversation. And boy do I miss Lukey.

  • Nothing Excessive: faith and the sacraments with John DeRosa

    June 26th, 2022  |  1 hr 31 mins

    John DeRosa is an incredible Catholic who runs the Classical Theism Podcast. He interviewed me for the show and we decided to dual-release it. His version will come out in a couple of weeks or so because, unlike me, he plans ahead for months. We talk about why the sacraments are not "super-added" to simple gospel faith, but are integral to it.

  • Clean My Space interview with Melissa Maker!

    June 16th, 2022  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Gomer got another YouTube religion: clean my space. So while Luke is away, I decided to email my favorite YouTubers and chat about their life, work, and success. Melissa was the first to get back to me and she does not disappoint. We talk cleaning, our hatred of it, how it can ruin marriages, and then practical products and tips on actually cleaning. It's like therapy.

  • Inside the Priesthood

    June 12th, 2022  |  2 hrs 6 mins

    We interview Fr. David Hust to talk about the things priests do and how they should do them well: weddings, funerals, confession, and the Holy Mass. This show is basically in three parts: Confessions, then Mass in general, then the Weddings/Funerals topic. We also reference "Mass of the Ages, ep. 2" which was pretty incredible at explaining how the liturgy when from Latin Mass to Novus Ordo without being jerks about it.

  • Exhausted: Work Doesn't Have to Kill Us

    June 5th, 2022  |  1 hr 38 mins

    First, you are burning out. Second, it's not entirely your fault. Third, here's how to take steps to change it all.

  • From Inner City Charter Schools to Homeschooling

    May 28th, 2022  |  1 hr 29 mins

    Temporary Co-Host, Brian Jones, returns to NOT talk about the liturgy. Instead, we discuss his time in a Cleveland inner-city charter school as a teacher and compare/contrast institutional schooling (public, charter, private, parochial) with homeschooling (hybrid, classical, and Robinson Curriculum). We also talk about the stupid "super Catholic" pressures we put on each other when it comes to schooling, number of kids, age of marriage, etc.

  • Atonement Theology NERDFEST with John DeRosa of the Classical Theism Podcast

    May 22nd, 2022  |  1 hr 39 mins

    (originally aired 08/2021, "What do Catholics Say about the Atonement?" on the Classical Theism Podcast) John is a fantastic man. He's a high school math teacher at a public school and defends 2,000 years of the Catholic Intellectual Tradition on the side. He really does love the God of classical theism. This was initially aired on his great podcast: Classic Theism Podcast, episode 160. He emailed me 20 minutes ago letting me use this for CF. He's the best!