Catching Foxes

Two guys talking about the collision of faith and culture. Discussion over Instruction. *Occasionally explicit.

About the show

Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!

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  • Family, Disney, & Norm MacDonald

    September 18th, 2021  |  1 hr 28 mins

    Chapters! Gomer and Luke's family updates. Erin, Luke's wife, ruins their car out of stubbornness, Gomer spent hundreds on his latest YouTube hobby (lighting), and we discuss the Disney Movie Renaissance. Finally, we talk about the passing of Norm MacDonald.

  • Being Miserable is Not a Personality

    September 10th, 2021  |  1 hr 10 mins

    Four parts: Gomer's latest YouTube obsession, but it's more altruistic. Then 3 practical, yet sexy questions from Patreon supporter Moira. Luke discusses an awful picture of an employee and posits: "being miserable is not a personality." Finally, we conclude with Woodstock 99.

  • Diamonds

    September 4th, 2021  |  1 hr 14 mins

    The Artist plays with symbols without necessarily knowing fully what they mean. And when Art is bent to tell a moral and not a story, it becomes Propaganda.

  • The TLM is good, but it isn't Magic

    August 27th, 2021  |  1 hr 39 secs

    What do you think about someone dating your daughter? Gomer has settled on unbridled murder. Luke embraces the "it's ok to have your heartbroken if it makes you resilient."

  • Blame It on the Rain

    August 21st, 2021  |  1 hr 26 mins

    Milli Vanilli fan page; Peak Gomer and Peak Luke with A Redemptive Story from that night; Luke wears Grandpa's pants that night; Patreon Question: How do you get over a very serious relationship breakup; Gomer's Theology: How the ancient catholic church viewed "Church" differently than we tend to do in today's Americanized, Protestantized Christianity, especially in evangelization.

  • Money, Pain, and Late Night

    August 12th, 2021  |  1 hr 28 mins

    Luke and Gomer talk about money and the Church (not the Vatican, but fundraising). Then Gomer updates everyone about Shannon and what's next there (minute 40ish). Finally, as Luke tries to hang up, Gomer demands Luke tells him all about the new audiobook Luke's listening to about the Late Night wars between Leno and Conan.

  • Is everything sad going to come untrue?

    August 6th, 2021  |  1 hr 19 mins

    “[Some mortals] say of some temporal suffering, “No future bliss can make up for it,” not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory.” —C. S. Lewis, The Great Divorce

  • Do you want to know how I prepared for this?

    August 3rd, 2021  |  1 hr 31 secs

    evin Heider replaces Gomer for this (last) week's episode! Shenanigans ensue.

    Sorry for the delay. Life happened, but the episode is now in your hands! And by hands we mean ears. And by ears we mean the great, mystical could! Hooray!


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  • The Light of Things Hoped For...

    July 23rd, 2021  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Jesus Christ, light of the world, You never did forget me. And when I bled in darkness, You held me, still held me. When desperate nights I cursed You, You loved me, still loved me. Jesus Christ, You dry the tears, You break my heart of stone, Your words are life cut marrow through the darkness to the bone. A heart of flesh You gave me, Only You can save me. Savior! Daylight! I am coming home!

  • Sin as Micro-dosing Divinity

    July 10th, 2021  |  1 hr 2 mins

    Luke wraps up his time at Notre Dame as we record. Gomer is happy that this cowhoret is out of Luke's life and he can get back to focusing on me as his only friend. We talk about the merits of an executive course- not expertise or research as the goal, but proficiency. Then we discuss WHY GOMER LOVES TALKING SH*T ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE and how Divine Filiation is hiding around the corner of every sin.

  • Beauty will Save the World!

    July 3rd, 2021  |  1 hr 10 mins

    Luke and Gomer talk about a TOTALLY FICTIONAL NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION'S board and whether it would be either legal or ethical. Then we talk about a talk, this one from Tracey Rowland at the Dawson Society: "What did Dostoyevsky mean when he said ‘Beauty will save the world’?

  • Welcome to Your Cohort

    June 25th, 2021  |  1 hr 14 mins

    Luke is at Notre Dame. Did you know? Well, this episode involves Luke just walking around campus trying to get home for the night (he gets lost at one point). Also, Luke talks about how two accounting professors embody Catholic education in the best way possible.

  • Shannon Gormley Uncensored! (AMA)

    June 19th, 2021  |  1 hr 4 mins
    catholic, family, homeschooling, marriage, nascar

    Luke's at Notre Dame and bailed on me last second, so I went to my OTHER wife, Shannon, and ask her to also be my podcasting wife. Here's her debut performance! "Ask Michael's Wife Anything". And you did. Well, sorta. You mostly asked her marriage questions, as if being married to me was some hardship or something. Bah! I'm a gem, I tells ya, A GEM! We talk NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it's important to her; Homeschooling and our Classical approach, and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me.

  • 3 Life Questions

    June 11th, 2021  |  53 mins 35 secs

    Luke got to Notre Dame today, walked the campus, and got his apartment situation figured out, so this means he's exhausted when we recorded. We shortened the show to 2 follow-up comments and 3 Patreon questions.

  • Six Types of Working Genius and Ministry

    June 4th, 2021  |  1 hr 22 mins
    culture, discernment, work

    John Boy and Billy BS: Luke killed a mouse, Gomer’s wife killed a scorpion, while Gomer was naked! We have a new Take Gomer to the Woodshed moment. TOPIC: Patrick Lencioni's "Six Types of Working Genius" and how it applies to the Church. These are incredibly insightful.

  • Sacred Art, Progress, and How to Argue with your Spouse

    May 28th, 2021  |  1 hr 22 mins

    We start talking about Sacred Architecture and crappy churches, which moves the conversation to Sacred Artwork and how we advance them without getting lost in the lameness of the fad or the trendy. Then halfway we hit on the topic of arguing with your spouse. We end with a "Keeping up with the Kardashians" moment of "Take Luke out to the Woodshed".