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    <title>Catching Foxes - Episodes Tagged with “Family”</title>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
    <description>Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!
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    <itunes:subtitle>Two guys talking about the collision of faith and culture. Discussion over Instruction. *Occasionally explicit.</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Luke and Gomer</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Luke and Gomer became friends Freshman year at the Franciscan University of Steubenville and 14 years later they started a podcast. The show oscillates between a conversation between just the two of us and interviews that we do together of other, fancier people. Sometimes we get explicit either by being too honest or by being too stupid. Either way, it's fun!
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  <title>Shannon Gormley Uncensored! (AMA)</title>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2021 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Luke's at Notre Dame and bailed on me last second, so I went to my OTHER wife, Shannon, and ask her to also be my podcasting wife. Here's her debut performance! "Ask Michael's Wife Anything". And you did. Well, sorta. You mostly asked her marriage questions, as if being married to me was some hardship or something. Bah! I'm a gem, I tells ya, A GEM! We talk NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it's important to her; Homeschooling and our Classical approach, and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;"Ask Michael's Wife Anything" &lt;br&gt;
And our Patreon superheroes did ask her anything. We got 25 questions in about 15 minutes at 9:00 PM on Thursday night. Join our Patreon page and get access to early releases, bonus content, and our new and very lively Discord Server of Doom. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*&lt;em&gt;We talk: *&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it's important to her; &lt;br&gt;
Homeschooling and our Classical approach, &lt;br&gt;
and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me.  &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;Ask Michael&#39;s Wife Anything&quot; <br>
And our Patreon superheroes did ask her anything. We got 25 questions in about 15 minutes at 9:00 PM on Thursday night. Join our Patreon page and get access to early releases, bonus content, and our new and very lively Discord Server of Doom. </p>

<p>*<em>We talk: *</em><br>
NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it&#39;s important to her; <br>
Homeschooling and our Classical approach, <br>
and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me. </p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.betterhelp.com/foxes">BetterHelp.com</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.betterhelp.com/foxes">This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://redactedcoffee.com">Redacted Coffee</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://redactedcoffee.com">Catching Foxes listeners get 25% off their purchases by choosing their loyalty: use either promo code TeamLuke or TeamGomer at checkout. No, there isn't a limit on the number of times you can use the promo code. Yes, this is a popularity contest.</a> Promo Code: TeamLuke, Team Gomer</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://equipt.in/series-catchingfoxes">Equipt</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://equipt.in/series-catchingfoxes">Catholicism in the Modern Age requires new approaches to bring the love of God to a hurting world. The team over at Equipt is hosting a FREE three-part video series on how to help the Church thrive in these challenging times. Click our affiliate link to check it out.</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Boring Old White Guy: Bill Murray went to Loyola Academy..." rel="nofollow" href="http://boringoldwhiteguy.blogspot.com/2015/11/bill-murray-went-to-loyola-academy.html">Boring Old White Guy: Bill Murray went to Loyola Academy...</a> &mdash; First of all, as any self-respecting fan knows, Caddyshack was based on Murray's experiences at Indian Hill Club in Winnetka. But what you may not know is that like many other country clubs of the time, Indian Hill was "restricted." That might sound almost quaint today, but it means the club didn't admit blacks or Jews as members. In fact, until at least the 1950s, or even as late as the 1960s, Indian Hill had only one Catholic member, Monsignor Thomas Burke of Faith, Hope and Charity Parish.
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;Ask Michael&#39;s Wife Anything&quot; <br>
And our Patreon superheroes did ask her anything. We got 25 questions in about 15 minutes at 9:00 PM on Thursday night. Join our Patreon page and get access to early releases, bonus content, and our new and very lively Discord Server of Doom. </p>

<p>*<em>We talk: *</em><br>
NASCAR- why she likes it, how she got into it, and why it&#39;s important to her; <br>
Homeschooling and our Classical approach, <br>
and then a ton of questions about being married to an idiot like me. </p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.betterhelp.com/foxes">BetterHelp.com</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.betterhelp.com/foxes">This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Catching Foxes listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/FOXES
</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://redactedcoffee.com">Redacted Coffee</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://redactedcoffee.com">Catching Foxes listeners get 25% off their purchases by choosing their loyalty: use either promo code TeamLuke or TeamGomer at checkout. No, there isn't a limit on the number of times you can use the promo code. Yes, this is a popularity contest.</a> Promo Code: TeamLuke, Team Gomer</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://equipt.in/series-catchingfoxes">Equipt</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://equipt.in/series-catchingfoxes">Catholicism in the Modern Age requires new approaches to bring the love of God to a hurting world. The team over at Equipt is hosting a FREE three-part video series on how to help the Church thrive in these challenging times. Click our affiliate link to check it out.</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Boring Old White Guy: Bill Murray went to Loyola Academy..." rel="nofollow" href="http://boringoldwhiteguy.blogspot.com/2015/11/bill-murray-went-to-loyola-academy.html">Boring Old White Guy: Bill Murray went to Loyola Academy...</a> &mdash; First of all, as any self-respecting fan knows, Caddyshack was based on Murray's experiences at Indian Hill Club in Winnetka. But what you may not know is that like many other country clubs of the time, Indian Hill was "restricted." That might sound almost quaint today, but it means the club didn't admit blacks or Jews as members. In fact, until at least the 1950s, or even as late as the 1960s, Indian Hill had only one Catholic member, Monsignor Thomas Burke of Faith, Hope and Charity Parish.
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  <title>Haley Stewart has had ENOUGH!</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>I love the Stewart story! Conversion to Catholicism, dead-end unhappy life, a return to the land and farming, and pooping in a bucket, to discovering the grace of enough. Rest assured, her personal commitment to Christ will make you happy you suffered through Luke and me till the bitter end. She's amazing.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;I love the Stewart story! Conversion to Catholicism, dead-end unhappy life, a return to the land and farming, and pooping in a bucket, to discovering the grace of enough. Rest assured, her personal commitment to Christ will make you happy you suffered through Luke and me till the bitter end. She's amazing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks to CatholicStock.com and The Catholic Card Game Generations Expansion! &lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>farm, suburbs, Waco, life, FIRE, enough, grace</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I love the Stewart story! Conversion to Catholicism, dead-end unhappy life, a return to the land and farming, and pooping in a bucket, to discovering the grace of enough. Rest assured, her personal commitment to Christ will make you happy you suffered through Luke and me till the bitter end. She&#39;s amazing.</p>

<p>Thanks to CatholicStock.com and The Catholic Card Game Generations Expansion!</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholiccardgame.com/">The Catholic Card Game</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholiccardgame.com/">Donate to the cause starting on July 11th.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholicstock.com/">CatholicStock</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholicstock.com/">Use the Promo Code "foxes" to get 20% off your first token and support Catholic art the doesn't suck!</a> Promo Code: foxes</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="About Haley" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.carrotsformichaelmas.com/about/about-haley/">About Haley</a></li><li><a title="Fountains of Carrots Podcast" rel="nofollow" href="https://fountainsofcarrots.com/">Fountains of Carrots Podcast</a></li><li><a title="The Grace of Enough" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.carrotsformichaelmas.com/my-books/the-grace-of-enough/">The Grace of Enough</a> &mdash; The Grace of Enough: Pursuing Less and Living More in a Throwaway Culture is the story of how my family made the radical decision to leave a secure life in the city, sell our house, get rid of most of our possessions, and move halfway across the country with three small children for a year long internship on a farm with&nbsp;no flushing toilets. We went from being the owners of a lovely little home in Florida to living in a 650 square foot apartment on a farm in Texas.

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    <![CDATA[<p>I love the Stewart story! Conversion to Catholicism, dead-end unhappy life, a return to the land and farming, and pooping in a bucket, to discovering the grace of enough. Rest assured, her personal commitment to Christ will make you happy you suffered through Luke and me till the bitter end. She&#39;s amazing.</p>

<p>Thanks to CatholicStock.com and The Catholic Card Game Generations Expansion!</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholiccardgame.com/">The Catholic Card Game</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholiccardgame.com/">Donate to the cause starting on July 11th.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholicstock.com/">CatholicStock</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://catholicstock.com/">Use the Promo Code "foxes" to get 20% off your first token and support Catholic art the doesn't suck!</a> Promo Code: foxes</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="About Haley" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.carrotsformichaelmas.com/about/about-haley/">About Haley</a></li><li><a title="Fountains of Carrots Podcast" rel="nofollow" href="https://fountainsofcarrots.com/">Fountains of Carrots Podcast</a></li><li><a title="The Grace of Enough" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.carrotsformichaelmas.com/my-books/the-grace-of-enough/">The Grace of Enough</a> &mdash; The Grace of Enough: Pursuing Less and Living More in a Throwaway Culture is the story of how my family made the radical decision to leave a secure life in the city, sell our house, get rid of most of our possessions, and move halfway across the country with three small children for a year long internship on a farm with&nbsp;no flushing toilets. We went from being the owners of a lovely little home in Florida to living in a 650 square foot apartment on a farm in Texas.

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  <title>Immigrant Children</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2018 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Luke and Gomer</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>SENSITIVE EPISODE: Trying our best to balance the morality of honest security, humanitarian openness, the rule of law, and protecting children and families. Gomer gives three key insights from actual Catholic humans actually on the ground with these kids. Nothing is clean and clear. FOLLOW UP WILL HAPPEN!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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&lt;p&gt;We recorded the day Trump signed an executive order against breaking up families, so we really didn't have time to process the ramifications. Let me make it clear, we are 100% against the punitive separation of children from their families. We are also 100% for the comprehensive immigration reform and greater work visas for immigrant labor. (Gomer is for the legalization of literally all drugs, so that will strip the cartels of most of their power, but we don't talk about that!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What we are not for is the hype wagon of the left wing media and anti-Trumpkins out there. Nor are we interested in the Sessions-style biblical apologetics of the Trumpkin defenders. We are pro-life, pro-family, and pro-child. Some of these parents are sketchy. Some of these kids are being trafficked (a lot more than you think) and need to be saved. Some are criminals, some are forced into criminal behavior. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;GOMER'S IGNORANCE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Gomer here: "I will claim more ignorance of the elevation of abuse under Trump's administration, really especially since the month of March. I do think it's due to the increase in illegal border crossings that usually drops off the closer we get to summer. I've spent all day today reading Vox and some others about the background to the anti-Trump recent outrage and have learned a lot. I also think the Colberts of the world are just so blind with Trump hatred (again, personally, I did not vote for him and never will) they will blame everything on him and not on a lack of space, of funds, or of personnel to help these kids. &lt;/p&gt;
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<p>We recorded the day Trump signed an executive order against breaking up families, so we really didn&#39;t have time to process the ramifications. Let me make it clear, we are 100% against the punitive separation of children from their families. We are also 100% for the comprehensive immigration reform and greater work visas for immigrant labor. (Gomer is for the legalization of literally all drugs, so that will strip the cartels of most of their power, but we don&#39;t talk about that!)</p>

<p>What we are not for is the hype wagon of the left wing media and anti-Trumpkins out there. Nor are we interested in the Sessions-style biblical apologetics of the Trumpkin defenders. We are pro-life, pro-family, and pro-child. Some of these parents are sketchy. Some of these kids are being trafficked (a lot more than you think) and need to be saved. Some are criminals, some are forced into criminal behavior. </p>

<p><strong>GOMER&#39;S IGNORANCE</strong><br>
Gomer here: &quot;I will claim more ignorance of the elevation of abuse under Trump&#39;s administration, really especially since the month of March. I do think it&#39;s due to the increase in illegal border crossings that usually drops off the closer we get to summer. I&#39;ve spent all day today reading Vox and some others about the background to the anti-Trump recent outrage and have learned a lot. I also think the Colberts of the world are just so blind with Trump hatred (again, personally, I did not vote for him and never will) they will blame everything on him and not on a lack of space, of funds, or of personnel to help these kids.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="The Catholic vision of just immigration reform" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/the-catholic-vision-of-just-immigration-reform-57182">The Catholic vision of just immigration reform</a> &mdash; “You drew me forth from the womb,” the Psalmist wrote to the Lord, “made me safe at my mother’s breasts.”

We don’t know what happened after that Honduran girl was taken from her mother’s arms.

We don’t know if she was taken to a warehouse, to be housed with hundreds of other children who had been separated from their immigrant parents. We don’t know if she sat strapped in a car seat, squalling for her mother, near the big kids who let themselves cry only as they fall asleep on gym mats spread across the floor, behind a chain link fence.

We do know that policies that indiscriminately separate children from their migrant parents at our national border violate the sacred sovereignty of families. They need to be stopped.

But it’s not enough to condemn the treatment of a mother separated from her child without asking what should happen instead. There have been, unfortunately, too few solutions proposed to address a real problem: how should the identity of family members be verified at the border, to ensure that children are not being trafficked? That issue needs more than moralizing or grandstanding. It needs a real solution.</li><li><a title="Zero-tolerance immigration policy leads to surge in family separations, lawyer says - CNN" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/12/us/immigration-separated-children-southern-border/index.html">Zero-tolerance immigration policy leads to surge in family separations, lawyer says - CNN</a> &mdash; Children generally are separated from parents who are awaiting prosecution for crossing illegally, so prosecuting more parents will result in the separation of far more children from their parents at the border than before the policy took effect.
Those children become the charges of the Health and Human Services' Administration for Children and Families (specifically, the Office of Refugee Resettlement).</li><li><a title="Family separation at the border: the past 72 hours in outrage, explained - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475292/family-separation-border-immigration-policy-trump">Family separation at the border: the past 72 hours in outrage, explained - Vox</a> &mdash; The past 72 hours in outrage over Trump’s immigrant family separation policy, explained
Children are being kept in cages. Parents are being deported without their kids. Trump is wrongly blaming Democrats.</li><li><a title="Hundreds of children wait in Border Patrol facility in Texas" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.apnews.com/amp/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769?__twitter_impression=true">Hundreds of children wait in Border Patrol facility in Texas</a> &mdash; McALLEN, Texas (AP) — Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water, bags of chips and large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets.

</li><li><a title="UN Human Rights Office condemns US border separation of families" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/un-human-rights-office-condemns-us-border-separation-of-families-48356">UN Human Rights Office condemns US border separation of families</a> &mdash; Washington D.C., Jun 7, 2018 / 03:42 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Maria had been a victim of sex trafficking and abuse by a local gang when she fled Guatemala. Taking her 3-year-old son, Jose, she made the trek to the U.S. border, seeking asylum in the United States.

But when she arrived at the U.S.-Mexico border in December 2017, she was apprehended by Customs and Border Protection. Agents separated her from her son, who was grouped together with “unaccompanied minors” by the Office of Refugee Resettlement, while Maria was transferred to adult detention.</li><li><a title="US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/us-bishops-ask-that-immigration-reform-protect-families-dreamers-25454">US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers</a> &mdash; US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers
</li><li><a title="Family separation and detention: Obama’s border policy vs. Trump’s - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17488458/obama-immigration-policy-family-separation-border">Family separation and detention:&nbsp;Obama’s border policy vs. Trump’s - Vox</a> &mdash; What Obama did with migrant families vs. what Trump is doing
Trump hopes the courts will let him detain families like Obama did.</li><li><a title="Pope Francis criticizes Trump&#39;s &#39;zero-tolerance&#39; migrant policy" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-criticizes-trump-zero-tolerance-migrant-policy-95164">Pope Francis criticizes Trump's 'zero-tolerance' migrant policy</a> &mdash; Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. bishops conference, issued a statement during the bishops' biannual meeting in Fort Lauderdale last week. He criticized the policy, saying “separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.”

He said later the bishops would consider the possibility of sending a delegation to the U.S.-Mexico border to see the detention centers for themselves and offer solidarity for incoming migrants and refugees.

“Let it be clear that in these things, I respect [the position of] the bishops conference,” Pope Francis said in the interview with Reuters.

When migrants arrive to a country, “you have to receive them, help them, look after them, accompany them and then see where to put them, but throughout all of Europe,” he said, noting that “some governments are working on it, and people have to be settled in the best possible way, but creating psychosis is not the cure.”</li><li><a title="Tucson bishop elaborates on ‘canonical penalties’ for immigrant family separation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/tucson-bishop-elaborates-on-canonical-penalties-for-immigrant-family-separation-67019">Tucson bishop elaborates on ‘canonical penalties’ for immigrant family separation</a> &mdash; Tucson, Ariz., Jun 20, 2018 / 05:00 pm (CNA).- A bishop who suggested last week that the Church consider canonical penalties for Catholics involved in the separation of families at the United States’ southern border said Wednesday that penalties are not central to a discussion of immigration reform.

On immigration reform, &nbsp;“the critical issue at hand isn’t canonical penalties, even if the concept has intrigued many. The real issue is children being used as pawns in a contorted effort at punishing their parents or deterring future asylum seekers,” Bishop Edward Weisenburger of Tucson wrote in a June 20 op-ed for the Arizona Daily Star.

</li><li><a title="Trump on GOP “compromise” immigration bill: “What is the purpose”? - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/21/17488576/compromise-bill-house-republican-trump-tweet">Trump on GOP “compromise” immigration bill: “What is the purpose”? - Vox</a> &mdash; Trump undermined House Republicans’ entire immigration debate in one tweet
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<p>We recorded the day Trump signed an executive order against breaking up families, so we really didn&#39;t have time to process the ramifications. Let me make it clear, we are 100% against the punitive separation of children from their families. We are also 100% for the comprehensive immigration reform and greater work visas for immigrant labor. (Gomer is for the legalization of literally all drugs, so that will strip the cartels of most of their power, but we don&#39;t talk about that!)</p>

<p>What we are not for is the hype wagon of the left wing media and anti-Trumpkins out there. Nor are we interested in the Sessions-style biblical apologetics of the Trumpkin defenders. We are pro-life, pro-family, and pro-child. Some of these parents are sketchy. Some of these kids are being trafficked (a lot more than you think) and need to be saved. Some are criminals, some are forced into criminal behavior. </p>

<p><strong>GOMER&#39;S IGNORANCE</strong><br>
Gomer here: &quot;I will claim more ignorance of the elevation of abuse under Trump&#39;s administration, really especially since the month of March. I do think it&#39;s due to the increase in illegal border crossings that usually drops off the closer we get to summer. I&#39;ve spent all day today reading Vox and some others about the background to the anti-Trump recent outrage and have learned a lot. I also think the Colberts of the world are just so blind with Trump hatred (again, personally, I did not vote for him and never will) they will blame everything on him and not on a lack of space, of funds, or of personnel to help these kids.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="The Catholic vision of just immigration reform" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/the-catholic-vision-of-just-immigration-reform-57182">The Catholic vision of just immigration reform</a> &mdash; “You drew me forth from the womb,” the Psalmist wrote to the Lord, “made me safe at my mother’s breasts.”

We don’t know what happened after that Honduran girl was taken from her mother’s arms.

We don’t know if she was taken to a warehouse, to be housed with hundreds of other children who had been separated from their immigrant parents. We don’t know if she sat strapped in a car seat, squalling for her mother, near the big kids who let themselves cry only as they fall asleep on gym mats spread across the floor, behind a chain link fence.

We do know that policies that indiscriminately separate children from their migrant parents at our national border violate the sacred sovereignty of families. They need to be stopped.

But it’s not enough to condemn the treatment of a mother separated from her child without asking what should happen instead. There have been, unfortunately, too few solutions proposed to address a real problem: how should the identity of family members be verified at the border, to ensure that children are not being trafficked? That issue needs more than moralizing or grandstanding. It needs a real solution.</li><li><a title="Zero-tolerance immigration policy leads to surge in family separations, lawyer says - CNN" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/12/us/immigration-separated-children-southern-border/index.html">Zero-tolerance immigration policy leads to surge in family separations, lawyer says - CNN</a> &mdash; Children generally are separated from parents who are awaiting prosecution for crossing illegally, so prosecuting more parents will result in the separation of far more children from their parents at the border than before the policy took effect.
Those children become the charges of the Health and Human Services' Administration for Children and Families (specifically, the Office of Refugee Resettlement).</li><li><a title="Family separation at the border: the past 72 hours in outrage, explained - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475292/family-separation-border-immigration-policy-trump">Family separation at the border: the past 72 hours in outrage, explained - Vox</a> &mdash; The past 72 hours in outrage over Trump’s immigrant family separation policy, explained
Children are being kept in cages. Parents are being deported without their kids. Trump is wrongly blaming Democrats.</li><li><a title="Hundreds of children wait in Border Patrol facility in Texas" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.apnews.com/amp/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769?__twitter_impression=true">Hundreds of children wait in Border Patrol facility in Texas</a> &mdash; McALLEN, Texas (AP) — Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water, bags of chips and large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets.

</li><li><a title="UN Human Rights Office condemns US border separation of families" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/un-human-rights-office-condemns-us-border-separation-of-families-48356">UN Human Rights Office condemns US border separation of families</a> &mdash; Washington D.C., Jun 7, 2018 / 03:42 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Maria had been a victim of sex trafficking and abuse by a local gang when she fled Guatemala. Taking her 3-year-old son, Jose, she made the trek to the U.S. border, seeking asylum in the United States.

But when she arrived at the U.S.-Mexico border in December 2017, she was apprehended by Customs and Border Protection. Agents separated her from her son, who was grouped together with “unaccompanied minors” by the Office of Refugee Resettlement, while Maria was transferred to adult detention.</li><li><a title="US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/us-bishops-ask-that-immigration-reform-protect-families-dreamers-25454">US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers</a> &mdash; US bishops ask that immigration reform protect families, Dreamers
</li><li><a title="Family separation and detention: Obama’s border policy vs. Trump’s - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17488458/obama-immigration-policy-family-separation-border">Family separation and detention:&nbsp;Obama’s border policy vs. Trump’s - Vox</a> &mdash; What Obama did with migrant families vs. what Trump is doing
Trump hopes the courts will let him detain families like Obama did.</li><li><a title="Pope Francis criticizes Trump&#39;s &#39;zero-tolerance&#39; migrant policy" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-criticizes-trump-zero-tolerance-migrant-policy-95164">Pope Francis criticizes Trump's 'zero-tolerance' migrant policy</a> &mdash; Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. bishops conference, issued a statement during the bishops' biannual meeting in Fort Lauderdale last week. He criticized the policy, saying “separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.”

He said later the bishops would consider the possibility of sending a delegation to the U.S.-Mexico border to see the detention centers for themselves and offer solidarity for incoming migrants and refugees.

“Let it be clear that in these things, I respect [the position of] the bishops conference,” Pope Francis said in the interview with Reuters.

When migrants arrive to a country, “you have to receive them, help them, look after them, accompany them and then see where to put them, but throughout all of Europe,” he said, noting that “some governments are working on it, and people have to be settled in the best possible way, but creating psychosis is not the cure.”</li><li><a title="Tucson bishop elaborates on ‘canonical penalties’ for immigrant family separation" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/tucson-bishop-elaborates-on-canonical-penalties-for-immigrant-family-separation-67019">Tucson bishop elaborates on ‘canonical penalties’ for immigrant family separation</a> &mdash; Tucson, Ariz., Jun 20, 2018 / 05:00 pm (CNA).- A bishop who suggested last week that the Church consider canonical penalties for Catholics involved in the separation of families at the United States’ southern border said Wednesday that penalties are not central to a discussion of immigration reform.

On immigration reform, &nbsp;“the critical issue at hand isn’t canonical penalties, even if the concept has intrigued many. The real issue is children being used as pawns in a contorted effort at punishing their parents or deterring future asylum seekers,” Bishop Edward Weisenburger of Tucson wrote in a June 20 op-ed for the Arizona Daily Star.

</li><li><a title="Trump on GOP “compromise” immigration bill: “What is the purpose”? - Vox" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/21/17488576/compromise-bill-house-republican-trump-tweet">Trump on GOP “compromise” immigration bill: “What is the purpose”? - Vox</a> &mdash; Trump undermined House Republicans’ entire immigration debate in one tweet
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  <title>The Next Right Step with David Garcia</title>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Luke and Gomer</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We talk with David Garcia about Katie, her battle with cancer, 9 months of blissful ignorance, her unbelievable funeral, his Village, and the next step in his life. You will not forget this episode.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;I'm happy we can bring you this episode with my friend David Garcia. He was married to Katie, a buddy from my ol' FUS days and a friend of my wife's for years. When she died, the light in the world got a bit dimmer, but her work wasn't done. From high school sweethearts to 10 years of marriage with 4 kids, a failed fight with cancer, and life without her, David shares all. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Obituary of Katie Garcia&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Katherine Lorine Garcia was born January 10, 1983, to Paul and Tina Hoffman.  Kate was the second of three children along with her older brother, Joseph Hoffman and younger sister, Lisa Loftice.  The family grew up going to the lake, and Kate loved the lake best of all places.  It was for her a refuge, a retreat, and a second home.  Weekends and summers at the lake were mandatory, for it was there that she could truly relax and simply enjoy time with her family.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On August 11, 2007, she married David Thomas Garcia, her high school sweetheart.  In 2010, they welcomed their first-born, John David, followed in 2011 by Lilia Marie, Thomas James in 2013, and Andrew Paul in 2014.  In February 2016, Kate was diagnosed with appendiceal cancer, and after a brief remission in the fall was diagnosed with stage IV in December.  On April 5, 2017, while holding David’s hand, she entered into her heavenly rest.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Kate loved Jesus and his Church with a passion that could be felt by all who knew her.  In public, she could be the life of the party or a quiet confidant, often switching from one to the other at will.  Despite her gregarious nature and ability to befriend anyone she met, she was strongly introverted and maintained a healthy balance of time with friends and time alone at home with just her children and David.  She loved watching TV and movies, and would often spend nights at home, snuggled on the couch with David, enjoying a show.  She loved to write and kept a daily journal for most of her life. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Katie took her vocation to marriage and family life seriously, and worked tirelessly for her marriage and children.  For Katie and David, marriage was like a garden: beautiful to see in bloom.  And like a garden,  it took work to keep it pruned, to pull out weeds, to water, and feed.  Kate was always reading and researching ways to be the best mother she could be for their four children, and she was an incredible mother: kind but firm, gentle even when disciplining, and purposeful in decision making.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Throughout her illness, Katie wrote and shared her thoughts and reflections online, touching hundreds, even thousands of hearts and drawing them closer to Jesus.  That was always her driving force - to bring others closer to God.  While at Franciscan University, Kate joined a sisterhood of faithful women - Stella Mariae.  Their household greeting, though short, seems fitting as she departs us for her final reward:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“It is the deepest desire of my heart to see you in heaven.” &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m happy we can bring you this episode with my friend David Garcia. He was married to Katie, a buddy from my ol&#39; FUS days and a friend of my wife&#39;s for years. When she died, the light in the world got a bit dimmer, but her work wasn&#39;t done. From high school sweethearts to 10 years of marriage with 4 kids, a failed fight with cancer, and life without her, David shares all. </p>

<h3>Obituary of Katie Garcia</h3>

<p>Katherine Lorine Garcia was born January 10, 1983, to Paul and Tina Hoffman.  Kate was the second of three children along with her older brother, Joseph Hoffman and younger sister, Lisa Loftice.  The family grew up going to the lake, and Kate loved the lake best of all places.  It was for her a refuge, a retreat, and a second home.  Weekends and summers at the lake were mandatory, for it was there that she could truly relax and simply enjoy time with her family.</p>

<p>On August 11, 2007, she married David Thomas Garcia, her high school sweetheart.  In 2010, they welcomed their first-born, John David, followed in 2011 by Lilia Marie, Thomas James in 2013, and Andrew Paul in 2014.  In February 2016, Kate was diagnosed with appendiceal cancer, and after a brief remission in the fall was diagnosed with stage IV in December.  On April 5, 2017, while holding David’s hand, she entered into her heavenly rest.</p>

<p>Kate loved Jesus and his Church with a passion that could be felt by all who knew her.  In public, she could be the life of the party or a quiet confidant, often switching from one to the other at will.  Despite her gregarious nature and ability to befriend anyone she met, she was strongly introverted and maintained a healthy balance of time with friends and time alone at home with just her children and David.  She loved watching TV and movies, and would often spend nights at home, snuggled on the couch with David, enjoying a show.  She loved to write and kept a daily journal for most of her life. </p>

<p>Katie took her vocation to marriage and family life seriously, and worked tirelessly for her marriage and children.  For Katie and David, marriage was like a garden: beautiful to see in bloom.  And like a garden,  it took work to keep it pruned, to pull out weeds, to water, and feed.  Kate was always reading and researching ways to be the best mother she could be for their four children, and she was an incredible mother: kind but firm, gentle even when disciplining, and purposeful in decision making.</p>

<p>Throughout her illness, Katie wrote and shared her thoughts and reflections online, touching hundreds, even thousands of hearts and drawing them closer to Jesus.  That was always her driving force - to bring others closer to God.  While at Franciscan University, Kate joined a sisterhood of faithful women - Stella Mariae.  Their household greeting, though short, seems fitting as she departs us for her final reward:</p>

<p>“It is the deepest desire of my heart to see you in heaven.”</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Katie Garcia" rel="nofollow" href="http://klgar.blogspot.com/">Katie Garcia</a> &mdash; This is my last blog post here. &nbsp;I don’t know if I can express how much this blog has meant to me, and how much it &nbsp;meant to Kate. &nbsp;As I think back to when we decided to start a blog, it was more about survival than trying to reach people. &nbsp;When she was first diagnosed in Feb 2016, our phones were buzzing non-stop with friends and family wanting updates. &nbsp;I figured that it’d be easier to type it once and publish it than to answer dozens of calls and texts every hour. &nbsp;Of course, this turned into so much more. &nbsp;Your prayers and support have been truly humbling, and the stories you tell of people’s lives being touched by our story are inspiring. &nbsp;Thank you for being a part of our lives, and for your continued prayers and support.
</li><li><a title="Katie Garcia: Nearing the End" rel="nofollow" href="http://klgar.blogspot.com/2017/04/nearing-end.html">Katie Garcia: Nearing the End</a> &mdash; God, in His infinite mercy, will likely bring my sweet Katie home sometime very soon. A priest was by this morning to hear her confession, give her anointing, and pray the prayers for the dying. Please pray for her peace as she prepares to look on Him who is the deepest longing of our hearts face to face. Be assured of His goodness and of her intercession.&nbsp;

I look forward to reading your comments here when I can, but please respect the family's privacy during this time. She is only seeing immediate family, and not able to respond to texts or answer calls.&nbsp;

God bless you!

The past few days have been hard, and I imagine the next few will be even harder. &nbsp;Kate is still with us. &nbsp;Those who have experience in these things tell me that it may still be a few days yet - maybe more, but maybe not. &nbsp;There's no way to know. </li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m happy we can bring you this episode with my friend David Garcia. He was married to Katie, a buddy from my ol&#39; FUS days and a friend of my wife&#39;s for years. When she died, the light in the world got a bit dimmer, but her work wasn&#39;t done. From high school sweethearts to 10 years of marriage with 4 kids, a failed fight with cancer, and life without her, David shares all. </p>

<h3>Obituary of Katie Garcia</h3>

<p>Katherine Lorine Garcia was born January 10, 1983, to Paul and Tina Hoffman.  Kate was the second of three children along with her older brother, Joseph Hoffman and younger sister, Lisa Loftice.  The family grew up going to the lake, and Kate loved the lake best of all places.  It was for her a refuge, a retreat, and a second home.  Weekends and summers at the lake were mandatory, for it was there that she could truly relax and simply enjoy time with her family.</p>

<p>On August 11, 2007, she married David Thomas Garcia, her high school sweetheart.  In 2010, they welcomed their first-born, John David, followed in 2011 by Lilia Marie, Thomas James in 2013, and Andrew Paul in 2014.  In February 2016, Kate was diagnosed with appendiceal cancer, and after a brief remission in the fall was diagnosed with stage IV in December.  On April 5, 2017, while holding David’s hand, she entered into her heavenly rest.</p>

<p>Kate loved Jesus and his Church with a passion that could be felt by all who knew her.  In public, she could be the life of the party or a quiet confidant, often switching from one to the other at will.  Despite her gregarious nature and ability to befriend anyone she met, she was strongly introverted and maintained a healthy balance of time with friends and time alone at home with just her children and David.  She loved watching TV and movies, and would often spend nights at home, snuggled on the couch with David, enjoying a show.  She loved to write and kept a daily journal for most of her life. </p>

<p>Katie took her vocation to marriage and family life seriously, and worked tirelessly for her marriage and children.  For Katie and David, marriage was like a garden: beautiful to see in bloom.  And like a garden,  it took work to keep it pruned, to pull out weeds, to water, and feed.  Kate was always reading and researching ways to be the best mother she could be for their four children, and she was an incredible mother: kind but firm, gentle even when disciplining, and purposeful in decision making.</p>

<p>Throughout her illness, Katie wrote and shared her thoughts and reflections online, touching hundreds, even thousands of hearts and drawing them closer to Jesus.  That was always her driving force - to bring others closer to God.  While at Franciscan University, Kate joined a sisterhood of faithful women - Stella Mariae.  Their household greeting, though short, seems fitting as she departs us for her final reward:</p>

<p>“It is the deepest desire of my heart to see you in heaven.”</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/CF">Support Catching Foxes</a></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Katie Garcia" rel="nofollow" href="http://klgar.blogspot.com/">Katie Garcia</a> &mdash; This is my last blog post here. &nbsp;I don’t know if I can express how much this blog has meant to me, and how much it &nbsp;meant to Kate. &nbsp;As I think back to when we decided to start a blog, it was more about survival than trying to reach people. &nbsp;When she was first diagnosed in Feb 2016, our phones were buzzing non-stop with friends and family wanting updates. &nbsp;I figured that it’d be easier to type it once and publish it than to answer dozens of calls and texts every hour. &nbsp;Of course, this turned into so much more. &nbsp;Your prayers and support have been truly humbling, and the stories you tell of people’s lives being touched by our story are inspiring. &nbsp;Thank you for being a part of our lives, and for your continued prayers and support.
</li><li><a title="Katie Garcia: Nearing the End" rel="nofollow" href="http://klgar.blogspot.com/2017/04/nearing-end.html">Katie Garcia: Nearing the End</a> &mdash; God, in His infinite mercy, will likely bring my sweet Katie home sometime very soon. A priest was by this morning to hear her confession, give her anointing, and pray the prayers for the dying. Please pray for her peace as she prepares to look on Him who is the deepest longing of our hearts face to face. Be assured of His goodness and of her intercession.&nbsp;

I look forward to reading your comments here when I can, but please respect the family's privacy during this time. She is only seeing immediate family, and not able to respond to texts or answer calls.&nbsp;

God bless you!

The past few days have been hard, and I imagine the next few will be even harder. &nbsp;Kate is still with us. &nbsp;Those who have experience in these things tell me that it may still be a few days yet - maybe more, but maybe not. &nbsp;There's no way to know. </li></ul>]]>
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